Stop, Stop, Stop please, don’t go down the F1 route and ruin the sport. As well as a Motogp fan, I use to be an avid F1 fan, but they ruined the sport with the ever increasing number of aero aids, artificial overtaking aids etc, so I nolonger watch it. Motogp is one of, if not the most exciting motosports to watch, but we can already see the impact these aero devices are having on the riders. Ultimately it will make following and overtaking more difficult, leading to boring races, and the fans will walk away.
I think it's a bit of a stretch to say that for 50 years very little changed, we went from bubbly designs in the 70's to upright boxy bikes in the early 80's to sleek flowing designs in the late 90's, and more angular and edged designed in the 2000's.
It's funny many people with less knowledge about aerodinamic becomes aerodinamic engineer/experts lol. They are really comparing F1 aero package with motogp aerofairing. That two is whole different things, one is a bike and the other one is a car. A car which is have bigger and complex aerodynamic parts. It's funny how they comparing F1 dirty air problem, even if gpbikes have aerofairing the dirty air that they produce is not have the same level as much as F1 can produce. Because it's a bike they're small and the winglet is also small. There's more benefit of aerofairinf than the problem that they produce. Like prevent wheelies, make cornering more stable, makes the bike more stable when accelerating on the corner exit, also stabilize under braking point. You can clearly see current motogpbikes is so smooth on the circuit also never stop to break every record each race. And another problem that people are crying that aerofairing make race have less overtaking is not true, you must be blind if still believe current gpbikes hard to overtake. The last 2 grandprix is very competitive, every rider make a dogifght each other from the race start to the finish.
This video is EXTREMELY disingenuous and sells the same made-up nonsense that the industry has been shoveling since the late '50s. Dustbin fairings allowed the bikes to go around the tracks a lot faster which, yes, ended up increasing some crashes and causing injury. This is because suddenly the bikes were outpacing their crappy tires, sub-par brakes, and often-dangerous board track courses!
So the FIM had a meeting in 1956 to figure out what to do. Mandate better tires? That'll cost money. Improve the tracks? Money. Mandate better brakes? Money. Smaller engines? Get out.
Hey you know what doesn't cost anything? Removing all the aerodynamics and then banning their use. Sweet, let's do that and introduce "New Streamlining" next season and claim the old stuff was too dangerous.
Later, when the AMA wanted to race with the Euro leagues, the FIM said "ok but you have to adopt all our laws, including New Streamlining." The AMA was fine with this.
Because actual, effective aerodynamic development was hamstrung at the racing level it never progressed any further. And the average Joe on the street doesn't know any better so they just assume what's on the track is the right way to do things. We, as consumers, have suffered from this ever since. Reverse the asinine ruling and develop some actual good aero. We will all benefit.
Those streamliner bikes… In these days of IMUs, and cheap computing power I bet one could be made with active aerodynamic surfaces that would handle crosswinds well.
I can't believe this was reviewed and then greenlighted. It really comes off as unimpressive. How could anyone watching not have the same conclusion and know it's not worth creating a video on if that's the whole story.
This video is rather underwhelmimg, sorry. Try to get the equivalent of Sam Collins and Craig Scarborough (Racecar Engineering and F1-TV) as tech-pundits to guide through the show and acually explain the evolution of the bikes and some details. And it is plain wrong to say, nothing happened for 50 years. Bikes from the 60s looked distinktly different to those from the 70s and 80s. Suzuki (among others) experimented with little winglets at the sid of the fairings in the 70s.
winglets and aero nowadays also helps with grips around the corner.
I hope next MotoGP game have old classic bike like '50 to early 70s
No cfd boooooo
Impresionante.👍✌
set playback speed to 1.5 so you dont pull your hair out
Don’t like the wings.
fantastica!😁
Why are they taking only Ducatis😂
That Suzuki still looks cool
Good for tech, bad for overtake. Boooooooorrrrriiiiiing……
nice information
#Stegosaurus
From motogp to formula 1
Stop, Stop, Stop please, don’t go down the F1 route and ruin the sport. As well as a Motogp fan, I use to be an avid F1 fan, but they ruined the sport with the ever increasing number of aero aids, artificial overtaking aids etc, so I nolonger watch it. Motogp is one of, if not the most exciting motosports to watch, but we can already see the impact these aero devices are having on the riders. Ultimately it will make following and overtaking more difficult, leading to boring races, and the fans will walk away.
Result is less existing races
I think it's a bit of a stretch to say that for 50 years very little changed, we went from bubbly designs in the 70's to upright boxy bikes in the early 80's to sleek flowing designs in the late 90's, and more angular and edged designed in the 2000's.
does it cause dirty air now ??
i love motogp and love this animation. but can anyone tell me what band the background music is?.. 👍😁
And recently, Ducati develop new aero kit "Stegosaurus"
Toprak Razgatlioglu
Aerodynamics destroy this sport
It's funny many people with less knowledge about aerodinamic becomes aerodinamic engineer/experts lol. They are really comparing F1 aero package with motogp aerofairing. That two is whole different things, one is a bike and the other one is a car. A car which is have bigger and complex aerodynamic parts. It's funny how they comparing F1 dirty air problem, even if gpbikes have aerofairing the dirty air that they produce is not have the same level as much as F1 can produce. Because it's a bike they're small and the winglet is also small. There's more benefit of aerofairinf than the problem that they produce. Like prevent wheelies, make cornering more stable, makes the bike more stable when accelerating on the corner exit, also stabilize under braking point. You can clearly see current motogpbikes is so smooth on the circuit also never stop to break every record each race. And another problem that people are crying that aerofairing make race have less overtaking is not true, you must be blind if still believe current gpbikes hard to overtake. The last 2 grandprix is very competitive, every rider make a dogifght each other from the race start to the finish.
Cool
Well done for the explanation
This video is EXTREMELY disingenuous and sells the same made-up nonsense that the industry has been shoveling since the late '50s. Dustbin fairings allowed the bikes to go around the tracks a lot faster which, yes, ended up increasing some crashes and causing injury. This is because suddenly the bikes were outpacing their crappy tires, sub-par brakes, and often-dangerous board track courses!
So the FIM had a meeting in 1956 to figure out what to do. Mandate better tires? That'll cost money. Improve the tracks? Money. Mandate better brakes? Money. Smaller engines? Get out.
Hey you know what doesn't cost anything? Removing all the aerodynamics and then banning their use. Sweet, let's do that and introduce "New Streamlining" next season and claim the old stuff was too dangerous.
Later, when the AMA wanted to race with the Euro leagues, the FIM said "ok but you have to adopt all our laws, including New Streamlining." The AMA was fine with this.
Because actual, effective aerodynamic development was hamstrung at the racing level it never progressed any further. And the average Joe on the street doesn't know any better so they just assume what's on the track is the right way to do things. We, as consumers, have suffered from this ever since. Reverse the asinine ruling and develop some actual good aero. We will all benefit.
i think its a bit too much… cant believe im saying this but F1 became more exciting than MotoGP
Do evolution of MotoGP suspension and race suit.
Winglets and such clutters make tge bikes look hideous. Miss the cleaner looking late 90s-2000s bikes
Team Suzuki
Great animations
DucatiGP
Race track aerodynamics mean nothing to a street rider unless that rider is committing a felony.
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Those streamliner bikes… In these days of IMUs, and cheap computing power I bet one could be made with active aerodynamic surfaces that would handle crosswinds well.
I can't believe this was reviewed and then greenlighted. It really comes off as unimpressive. How could anyone watching not have the same conclusion and know it's not worth creating a video on if that's the whole story.
Wouldn't the speed humps on rider's backs be considered a pretty significant upgrade
What kind of animation is this?
2017 was the best
Thanks for this amazing information ☺️
Wow, Now can just have no downforce fairings back please.
now seeing some little rear wing and fin at the back as well.
Thank you for the information
The beauty of 90's design for either bikes and F1s will remain forever unmatched.
This video is rather underwhelmimg, sorry. Try to get the equivalent of Sam Collins and Craig Scarborough (Racecar Engineering and F1-TV) as tech-pundits to guide through the show and acually explain the evolution of the bikes and some details. And it is plain wrong to say, nothing happened for 50 years. Bikes from the 60s looked distinktly different to those from the 70s and 80s. Suzuki (among others) experimented with little winglets at the sid of the fairings in the 70s.
that dirty air outtake from ducatis ruins motogp
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Those winglets don't help top speed at all.
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